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]]> By: Mary Hunter http://stalecheerios.com/blog/horse-training/what-is-stimulus-control/comment-page-1/#comment-7139 Mary Hunter Sun, 06 Feb 2011 00:11:54 +0000 http://stalecheerios.com/blog/?p=712#comment-7139 Hi Donna,<br><br>Thanks for the good comment! You always give me lots to think about. <br><br>I've sent you an e-mail privately and I also plan to discuss some of these training issues in future blog posts. <br><br>Mary Hi Donna,

Thanks for the good comment! You always give me lots to think about.

I've sent you an e-mail privately and I also plan to discuss some of these training issues in future blog posts.

Mary

]]> By: Donna Hill http://stalecheerios.com/blog/horse-training/what-is-stimulus-control/comment-page-1/#comment-7135 Donna Hill Fri, 04 Feb 2011 06:45:01 +0000 http://stalecheerios.com/blog/?p=712#comment-7135 Hi Mary, <br>I recently put out a video that shows putting a unwanted behavior under stimulus control to get rid of it. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c877MVeZkyE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...</a><br>I had a few people that were very fearful of trying this, while others were heartened that they could try it and I showed them the process. <br>I think there are two key points missing from Kurland's definition above. One is that the behavior can only be controlled during a training session. We cannot expect to control an animal's behavior with stimulus control if we are not interacting with it. So if my dog can sit or lay down on cue, I can't reasonably expect that she will never do this when I am not around. The same applies to barking and other self-reinforcing behaviors. We can hope that it will become a default behavior wheh we are not around, but there is no guarantee nor expectation to do so. <br>An interesting idea is to think about all behaviors as having the possibility of being self-reinforcing. A down can be self-reinforcing if a dog is tired.<br>Also when talking about self-reinforcing behaviors (like barking), there is an important element-that is arousal level of the animal -when doing the behavior. Your dog was clearly able to function wheh you captured the barks and so was under her over-arousal threshold. The other dogs that may continue barking are dogs that are over-aroused. As we cannot teach them until they are under the arousal threshold, we must find a way to lower it so we can teach them what we want, and then slowly increase the arousal level so they can succeed in a highly stimulating environment. (I.e. having a person walking on the far side of the street instead of a sidewalk in front of the house. Then as the dog shows you he is under threshold by responding to the cue, ask the person to walk down the middle of the road, then back on the sidewalk). No different than training any other cue or trick or even teaching calmness generally, in my opinion & experience. Food for thought. Lots of fear around this and most of it is about control issues of humans. Hi Mary,
I recently put out a video that shows putting a unwanted behavior under stimulus control to get rid of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
I had a few people that were very fearful of trying this, while others were heartened that they could try it and I showed them the process.
I think there are two key points missing from Kurland's definition above. One is that the behavior can only be controlled during a training session. We cannot expect to control an animal's behavior with stimulus control if we are not interacting with it. So if my dog can sit or lay down on cue, I can't reasonably expect that she will never do this when I am not around. The same applies to barking and other self-reinforcing behaviors. We can hope that it will become a default behavior wheh we are not around, but there is no guarantee nor expectation to do so.
An interesting idea is to think about all behaviors as having the possibility of being self-reinforcing. A down can be self-reinforcing if a dog is tired.
Also when talking about self-reinforcing behaviors (like barking), there is an important element-that is arousal level of the animal -when doing the behavior. Your dog was clearly able to function wheh you captured the barks and so was under her over-arousal threshold. The other dogs that may continue barking are dogs that are over-aroused. As we cannot teach them until they are under the arousal threshold, we must find a way to lower it so we can teach them what we want, and then slowly increase the arousal level so they can succeed in a highly stimulating environment. (I.e. having a person walking on the far side of the street instead of a sidewalk in front of the house. Then as the dog shows you he is under threshold by responding to the cue, ask the person to walk down the middle of the road, then back on the sidewalk). No different than training any other cue or trick or even teaching calmness generally, in my opinion & experience. Food for thought. Lots of fear around this and most of it is about control issues of humans.

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]]> By: Mary H. http://stalecheerios.com/blog/horse-training/what-is-stimulus-control/comment-page-1/#comment-724 Mary H. Mon, 11 May 2009 02:43:28 +0000 http://stalecheerios.com/blog/?p=712#comment-724 Hi Seattle Girl, Thanks for commenting on my blog. I think it's great that you're considering adopting a shelter dog. You ask what a good cue would be for getting the dog to stay by your side and sit there calmly. With Ginger, (http://stalecheerios.com/blog/meet-the-animals/ginger/) I'm currently working on staying for an extended period of time. She knows the word "stay," and we've gradually built the duration of the command from several seconds, to several minutes. She knows both a hand signal and a word for sit. So, I can ask her to sit and then stay, and she'll stay by my side in a sit until I give her the release word, which is the word "okay." I know about how long she'll sit, and so I release her before she gets distracted, so that we almost always remain successful. Does that make sense? Let me know if it doesn't. Kurland's DVDs are great, but they're more appropriate for horse people. There's good information in there, but unless you know a bit about training horses, it might be harder to pick out the stuff and reapply it to the dog world. Clicker training is an absolutely wonderful way to train a dog. It's positive, safe, and fun, for both the dog and the handler. Check out the free intro course offered by two top Norwegian trainers: http://stalecheerios.com/blog/2009/05/free-online-clicker-training-short-couse/ Or some of the free resources on Karen Pryor's website: http://clickertraining.com/whatis Karen Pryor's classic book "Don't Shoot the Dog," is a great introduction to training. I recommend it to anyone who's looking to train their dog. Karen Pryor also sells several dog training kits that are a great way to get started learning about training (the dog training kit is a great deal at $20): http://clickertraining.com/store/?item=dogtraining Be careful about the dog whisperer. Many positive and progressive dog trainers are extremely critical of his methods. They might be effective IF you know exactly what you're doing. However, there's much more positive and safer ways to train dogs. Check out this link for more info about why many people (including me) question Millan: http://stalecheerios.com/blog/2009/02/dog-whispering/ Are you in Seattle? If you'd like any info about dog trainers or training classes in the Seattle area I can look into finding some information for you. cheers, Mary H. Hi Seattle Girl,

Thanks for commenting on my blog. I think it’s great that you’re considering adopting a shelter dog.

You ask what a good cue would be for getting the dog to stay by your side and sit there calmly. With Ginger, (http://stalecheerios.com/blog/meet-the-animals/ginger/) I’m currently working on staying for an extended period of time. She knows the word “stay,” and we’ve gradually built the duration of the command from several seconds, to several minutes. She knows both a hand signal and a word for sit. So, I can ask her to sit and then stay, and she’ll stay by my side in a sit until I give her the release word, which is the word “okay.” I know about how long she’ll sit, and so I release her before she gets distracted, so that we almost always remain successful. Does that make sense? Let me know if it doesn’t.

Kurland’s DVDs are great, but they’re more appropriate for horse people. There’s good information in there, but unless you know a bit about training horses, it might be harder to pick out the stuff and reapply it to the dog world.

Clicker training is an absolutely wonderful way to train a dog. It’s positive, safe, and fun, for both the dog and the handler.

Check out the free intro course offered by two top Norwegian trainers:
http://stalecheerios.com/blog/2009/05/free-online-clicker-training-short-couse/
Or some of the free resources on Karen Pryor’s website:
http://clickertraining.com/whatis

Karen Pryor’s classic book “Don’t Shoot the Dog,” is a great introduction to training. I recommend it to anyone who’s looking to train their dog.

Karen Pryor also sells several dog training kits that are a great way to get started learning about training (the dog training kit is a great deal at $20):
http://clickertraining.com/store/?item=dogtraining

Be careful about the dog whisperer. Many positive and progressive dog trainers are extremely critical of his methods. They might be effective IF you know exactly what you’re doing. However, there’s much more positive and safer ways to train dogs. Check out this link for more info about why many people (including me) question Millan: http://stalecheerios.com/blog/2009/02/dog-whispering/

Are you in Seattle? If you’d like any info about dog trainers or training classes in the Seattle area I can look into finding some information for you.

cheers,

Mary H.

]]> By: seattle girl http://stalecheerios.com/blog/horse-training/what-is-stimulus-control/comment-page-1/#comment-567 seattle girl Wed, 06 May 2009 14:24:19 +0000 http://stalecheerios.com/blog/?p=712#comment-567 I'm giving careful thought to adopting a 10 month old dog, and I am researching training methods - the last thing I want is an animal who is out of control. I know the onus of that falls on me, and that I need to establish myself from the start as the leader (I watch a lot of Dog Whisperer :) ). I'm wondering about the visual cues you're talking about here - what exactly would one be, for let's say telling the dog to stay by your side and sit there calmly? Would you recommend Kurland's DVD for someone like me, who's not a professional animal trainer by a long shot? I’m giving careful thought to adopting a 10 month old dog, and I am researching training methods – the last thing I want is an animal who is out of control. I know the onus of that falls on me, and that I need to establish myself from the start as the leader (I watch a lot of Dog Whisperer :) ). I’m wondering about the visual cues you’re talking about here – what exactly would one be, for let’s say telling the dog to stay by your side and sit there calmly? Would you recommend Kurland’s DVD for someone like me, who’s not a professional animal trainer by a long shot?

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