Randomly and all the time

These two phrases — “randomly” and “all the time” — are ones that I hear quite often when I am working with my training clients.

Often, dog owners call in a trainer because their pet is exhibiting behaviors that are annoying, frustrating, or even downright dangerous. My job as a trainer is to identify the behavior, figure out why the dog is engaging in this behavior, and then coach the owner as we teach the dog new, more appropriate patterns of behavior. (And usually, the human gets just as much or more training than the dog!)

One of the first questions I have to figure out is “Under what conditions does this behavior occur?” Before we start any training program, I need to have a pretty solid idea of when and where the behavior occurs and why it might be occurring. During what situations does the behavior occur? Are there certain factors that make the behavior more (or less) likely to occur? Why might it be beneficial for the animal to engage in this behavior?

So, I start by asking the owner “When does your dog do this behavior?”

The two very common answers that I get to this question are “randomly” and “all the time.”

Well, that’s not much help!

A similar answer that I sometimes get is that the dog “never” does the behavior. For example, my clients often complain because the dog never comes when called. This spring I worked with a client with a young lab mix. The owner was exasperated because the dog “never” came when called. However, after some questioning, I figured out that the dog actually did great when she took him to the park and let him off leash and would come back every time. However, he often ignored her if she called him in the house. We approached this training situation very differently than we would have if the dog had been good at coming in the house, but had needed help when outside.

What if behavior was really random?

With some behaviors, it can sometimes be tough to figure out exactly when the behavior occurs. As a result, it is easier to say that the behavior is “random,” rather than to try to figure out the precise conditions. I’ve worked with clients with puppies that are mostly potty trained, but that “randomly” have accidents inside or adult dogs that “randomly” bark at strangers.

However, imagine what a mess the world would be if many of your behaviors did truly happen at random! You might lie down and go to sleep while riding up an escalator. Or you might stand up and start reciting the Gettysburg address during a meeting at work. Or any number of equally strange possibilities.

As a behavior analyst, one of the basic assumptions that guides all of the work that I do is that behavior is not random. Behavior happens for a reason. And by “reason” I mean that behaviors happen in certain situations and not in other situations because of the consequences (reinforcers and punishers) that have followed different behaviors in those situations.

For example, if surrounded by a hundred other people, a person will yell loudly if he’s at a baseball game, but whisper softly if he’s at church. Most people have a long history of reinforcement (and often punishment!) that teaches them when it is appropriate to yell, when to talk in a normal voice, and when to be sure to use the tiniest of whispers. (Remember that grumpy librarian from elementary school who was always glaring at you if you talked too loudly?) Of course, there’s probably been times when someone whispered at the baseball game or screamed at church, but I bet the person did so for a particular reason.

Animals (including humans) do what “works” to gain access to the things that they want and to avoid the things that they don’t want. Although certain behaviors can seem odd or out of place, they usually start to make sense if we can figure out more about the animal’s past experiences.

Unfortunately, behavior can seem “random” because most people are not very good observers of their own behavior and even poorer observers of the behavior of people and animals around them. I often have clients tell me that their dog does a certain behavior “all the time.” When I inquire if there are specific times or situations when he does or does not do the behavior, they tell me “no.” The dog does the behavior in all situations all the time.

So, then when I’ve been at the client’s house for about 20 minutes, I’ll sometimes point out that the dog hasn’t been doing the behavior for the past 20 minutes. So, this tells me that the dog sometimes doesn’t do the behavior when new visitors come over. Interesting! This can sometimes be eye opening and then I can often get the client to start listing situations or certain contexts where the dog does or does not do the behavior.

During training, we sometimes try to solve a behavior problem without completely understanding all of the different factors and triggers that relate to the behavior. This can sometimes be successful, but it can sometimes backfire on you. The more you know about exactly when, where, and why the behavior occurs, the better prepared you will be to design and implement a successful training program.

Time to be a detective

So, you have a behavior that you want to change. And, you’re working under the assumption that the behavior is not happening randomly. So, when does the behavior occur?

Remember what I said above, about how most people are not usually good observers of behavior? More often than not, my clients can give me a fairly good description of when a behavior occurs, but not a complete description of all of the relevant factors, conditions, and variables.

For example, imagine a young German shepherd that is “randomly” growling at friends who come over to visit. The owner is perplexed, because the puppy only seems to do it at about one out of every five people and sometimes the pup will be nice to someone one week, but growl at the same person the following week. It will be much easier to teach the puppy to be friendly and relaxed around strangers if you can figure out why he’s getting upset around certain people.

Ginger puppyI often have my clients take data. If it’s a behavior that happens all throughout the day (barking at things out the window, potty training issues, stealing things) I have the client start by taking data on when the behavior occurs. This can be very revealing!

For example, I had one client with a young cocker spaniel puppy that was doing pretty well with potty training, but that was still having 1-2 accidents at “random times” throughout the day. The client understood to take the puppy outside on a frequent and consistent schedule and was either crating the puppy or watching him very closely when he was loose in the house.

After keeping a log for about a week, the client determined that the dog was often having accidents in the kitchen in the morning or evening when she was cooking meals. She realized that she “thought” she was keeping an eye on him because they were so close together in the same room, but she usually wasn’t actually watching him because she was distracted by her cooking. She added in an extra potty break around these times and started keeping a closer watch on him. If she was cooking something that really required a lot of concentration, she would put him in his crate or play pen so that he wouldn’t have an accident in the house.

Under what conditions?

I often start by having my clients keep a log of “when” the behavior occurs. This requires some effort, but not too much effort and can result in meaningful data. When clients see the patterns in the data (with some help from me) and how this will be useful for training, it’s usually not too difficult to ask them to start collecting data on additional variables.

German shepherd puppyFor example, let’s return to the hypothetical young German shepherd that is sometimes growling at friends who come to visit. The owner knows the dog is more likely to growl at men and thinks that the dog is also growling more often when the friend has a beard. However, she’s perplexed because the dog sometimes will be friendly with someone one week, and then growl at the person the following week.

For about two weeks, you have the client takes data on:

  • Who the dog growls at
  • When the episode occurs (time of day, day of week, etc.)
  • Where the episode occurs
  • Who else was present
  • Where the person approached from
  • What the dog and people were doing before the new person approached
  • What each person did after the dog started growling
  • Any other things going on that might be important

After taking data, you and the client realize that the growling is closely related to whether or not the client’s brother is present and that it just so ends up that many of her brother’s friends have beards. (The growling could be because of something the brother is doing, or because the client behaves differently toward the dog when her brother is present, or a number of other reasons.)

You might still have some detective work to do to figure out what is going on when the brother is present that is not happening when the brother is absent. However, you are now a lot closer toward being able to design a really super training program for this dog, than if you had gone ahead and started a training program based on the assumption that the dog didn’t like men with beards. Because of data, you’ve identified new, relevant factors.

Being a dog trainer is a bit like being a detective. You have to like puzzles and you have to be able to look at a problem from all sorts of different angles. Sometimes, even after you’ve collected some good data, it really does still seem like a behavior is happening “randomly.” In these situations, it can be helpful to try to approach the puzzle from a completely new angle or to talk over the situation with another trainer who will have a fresh set of eyes.

I often do see trainers start a training program before they really have gotten a good enough sense of what is going on. I know I occasionally have done this too. Solving tough training puzzles can be difficult if the client needs immediate help, you have a limited amount of time, or you have difficulty getting the client to gather or provide enough information.

Imagine, though, if you had not collected enough information about the German shepherd and you had jumped into setting up a training program to help the dog learn to like men with beards. Maybe you get lucky and you do have some success with this training program. Very likely, however, this training plan is not going to be successful because you are targeting the wrong variables. Being able to pinpoint important factors and variables will allow you to design training programs that will be the most effective and that will have long lasting results.

One more example. Imagine you’d like to lose a bit of weight and you know you often snack too much at work. You start bringing healthy snacks with you and keep them at your desk. However, you still find yourself often going down to the vending machine to get a candy bar or going across the street to get a cookie or muffin from the local bakery.

So, you start taking data on your snacking behavior, including what usually happens before you leave your desk to go buy a snack and what happens afterward.

You have a pretty demanding job and, from taking data, you start to realize that you generally have one or two high stress conversations with your boss mid-afternoon. It’s usually after this that you need to get up, walk around, and get away from your desk for a few minutes. And, this usually leads you to the vending machine.

So, your idea of bringing healthy snacks didn’t work because what you are really craving is not a midday snack, but a short break from work that will help relieve some of your stress. Some possible solutions you might try could include improving your relationship with your boss, going and eating your healthy snack in the break room (so that you can get away from your desk for a few minutes), or finding some other way to take a break.

Final thoughts and a challenge

Behavior is not random. However, for perplexing behaviors that we do not understand, it can be tempting to label the behavior as “random.” This is largely because most people do not have good observational skills. Also, for behaviors that happen infrequently (once or twice a day, or even once or twice a week), it can be challenging to pick up on relevant variables and patterns. Keeping a log and collecting data can help you identify important and sometimes quite surprising information about when and where the behavior occurs.

Want a challenge for this week? Pick a behavior that you think usually happens at random (or just a behavior that you don’t feel that you know much about). It could be a behavior of one of your animals or even one of your own behaviors. Pick an interesting behavior or even just a “boring” behavior, such as how often you get up to get a glass of water. Keep a log of the behavior for at least 3 days. See if you find out anything interesting!

Photo credit: “Kim at 14 weeks” by Marilyn Peddle – originally posted to Flickr as Kim at 14 weeks. Licensed under CC BY 2.0 via Wikimedia Commons.

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19 Responses to Randomly and all the time

  1. Katherine Bartlett July 26, 2014 at 1:17 pm #

    Great blog Mary. It’s so important to gather as much information as you can before coming up with a training plan. It often seems “too hard” or “unnecessary (because you assume you know what’s going on)” but it makes a huge difference in how successful your training will be.

    • Mary Hunter July 30, 2014 at 4:22 am #

      Thanks!

      Glad you liked the article.

      I had a dog trainer leave a really interesting comment one of the facebook groups about a dog that was “randomly” fearful of strangers. After taking data for a couple of weeks, they discovered that it was people who smoked and/or who smelled like cigarette smoke. The trainer said they would have never guessed that without taking data!

      cheers,

      Mary

      • TheClamkinator L. August 16, 2014 at 1:44 am #

        Thank you; they are dear, and captivating!

        They are good at nose touching. (I wish I had a pic of my first target—a mini-stuffed bunny, which I rubbed in parsley to make sure it would seem unique to them. I’m always trying not to put my assumptions on them.)

        Now, I do have a proper telescoping target/clicker—but I noticed that, in the beginning, they touched along the stick, the ball on the end… they lost some accuracy when I switched. But that confirms my thought that “fluorescent/neon/bright” colors (the tip), to us, stand out, but do not, necessarily, to them. I guess we’ve learned that brights are “different.”)

        I loved the “scary” posts. And the palomino is a gorgeous and appealing fellow.

        So, I have resumed frequent clicking/rewarding as we approach, or during, the predictably “stoppy” times, and associating touches/click with scary objects.
        (They used to kick, pull, have a tantrum, when I put their bug spray
        on, but ever since touching the bottle proved so rewarding, they are blasé. Same thing for clipping the back hooves.)

        Even though, by purpose and by necessity, they’ve gotten conditioned to delivery trucks, forklifts (beep-beep on
        backup does not phase them; startles me!), bucket loaders, speeding customers, clang-y shopping carts, etc., etc., they do not seem to generalize and tune out anything they haven’t already seen/heard and inspected. It does makes sense, I guess, survival/evolution-wise.

        It’s so helpful to read your newsletter and see the examples. Will report as data accumulates…

        Christina

  2. Jane Leslie Jackson July 26, 2014 at 9:18 pm #

    This is fabulous Mary- you should submit it to The Whole Dog Journal. It’s well written, informative and easy to read.

    • Mary Hunter July 30, 2014 at 4:23 am #

      Thanks, Jane!

      So glad you liked it. I had not thought of that, but I will have to consider doing that. I’m not sure about their submission guidelines, but I will do a bit of researching!

      cheers,

      Mary

  3. Jenny H July 26, 2014 at 11:27 pm #

    Very nice article. Thankyou 🙂
    However, determing just exactly what is the cause of erratic behaviour can be pretty difficult. I know that when I was working with the Coffs Harbour Pet Porpoise pool. there was one sea lion whose behaviour could be remarkably wrratic. it was finally discovered that she had a neurological problem, and placed on drugs to comtrol epilepsy her behaviour became more ‘normal’.
    I have a dog here at the moment — pretty, sweet and *weird*. She will spook at apparently “random” times — for examply she might take a treat from my hand three times in a row, and then spook at the fourth time. I don’t think that it is a neurological problem — more of a ‘neophobia’, but trying to help her is an extraordinarily slow process. She will do brilliantly one day — or in one training place — and freak out the next day and/or in another place.
    I have determined some things which seem to set of her spooking — leaning slightly forward, facing her directly, speaking in a slightly firmer or louder voice than usual, or a number of other very slight things. Too slight really for us to realise that we’ve ‘done’ it until she’s spooked at us again 🙁
    Oh, did I say, she is *brillaint* to teach new ‘behaviours’ (aka tricks and Agility stuff) to?
    Having my own ‘in your face’ German Shepherds and Kelpies, I find her emotionally exhausting.
    Lickily for me, she goes home in a few weeks, Unluckily for her, as her own people are pretty stressed (problems with a young adult son) and she just doesn’t need that. But my sister *needs* her little dog 🙁

    • Mary Hunter July 30, 2014 at 4:28 am #

      Hi Jenny,

      Thanks for leaving a comment and I think you made some good points!

      I should add a section to the article about medical “stuff.” With certain types of behavior problems or in certain situations if we are taking data and not getting much of anywhere, I definitely recommend that clients also consult with their veterinarian in addition to working with me. One good example would be adult dogs that start having potty training issues — I always want to make sure this is not a medical issue before we start any training.

      With your dog that you have at the moment, it sounds like you have been able to identify at least some factors that relate to her behaviors. With the really perplexing ones, I find taking video can help and/or taking data on variables that I wouldn’t normally think might be important.

      cheers,

      Mary

  4. Jordan Walker July 28, 2014 at 1:19 am #

    Great article! I agree with Jane that it’s well-written, informative and easy to read. Owner should have a complete details on when the behavior occur before planning an action/training steps on how to stop this kind of behavior. I will share this helpful information to my friends who also have a dog. Thank you for sharing this article.

    • Mary Hunter July 30, 2014 at 4:29 am #

      Hi Jordan,

      Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment! I’m really glad to hear that you enjoyed the article. 🙂

      cheers,

      Mary

      • Jordan Walker August 4, 2014 at 12:09 am #

        You are welcome Mary.

        Your article is well-written and very information. Many dog owner will be grateful for this post. Keep up the good work.

  5. PremierDogs July 28, 2014 at 1:16 pm #

    Very good article – thank you! On a semi-related note: When providing my behaviour evaluation report to clients I always make a point of specifying whether the behaviour is “normal” canine behaviour or “abnormal”. Of course most common behaviour issues are absolutely “normal” when viewed in context with the circumstances/environment, but it’s amazing to see just how many people equate their dogs behaviour as “abnormal” simply because they don’t want the behaviour to continue to occur. They are usually so relieved to find out their dog is ‘normal’ that they relax and start being more receptive to figuring out the triggers.

    • Mary Hunter July 30, 2014 at 4:32 am #

      Thanks for leaving a comment. This is SUCH a great point!!

      I actually dealt with a very similar issue yesterday and this past weekend with a couple of new puppy clients. They both thought their dogs were being very aggressive / out of hand, when what they were observing was just typical puppy play behavior. They just had very little experience watching puppies play with other dogs and didn’t know if what they were seeing was good or bad.

      cheers,

      Mary

  6. Emmanuelle Moraes July 30, 2014 at 2:39 pm #

    Muito bom !!

  7. TheClamkinator L. August 5, 2014 at 4:26 pm #

    My two pet Nubian goat tend to stop abruptly while I’m walking
    them on their leashes (sometimes both, but, oddly, mostly one or the
    other; worst they alternate–I get one going, the other stops). They
    are quite skilled at it, so I don’t think it’s confusion.

    Research results: the stopping is sometimes an alert… scary
    [anything] (which they’ve passed hundreds of times, scary reflection in
    glass door — hey who’s that goat!?! (that never gets old),
    and, I would think, sometimes it is a sound that I cannot hear. You
    would think both of them would alert at that, it is not always so.
    There’s that “randomness?”)

    I’m not sure whether those innate
    triggers could ever be overridden by clicks, but I hope to reduce the
    frequency, b/c I’m tired of having my arm yanked. Their correct
    position is to my left (Nibbles) and behind, on a longer lead
    (Rosebud). It is R.’s job to be the lagger–I learned that it is a
    herd-survival thing–lowest goat makes itself a target for predators.
    But the herd=2, so R. has to do it. I allow it, b/c it’s strong, and
    b/c it’s safer when walking along driveway/sidewalk. But I want her to
    keep moving.

    They keep moving pretty well if I click and treat every few, steps but I’d like to reduce that.

    (Irrelevant
    but funny:–never gets old: they make their wishes crystal clear when
    they wish to go a different way than I. .. they stop and gaze
    soulfully, fixedly, longingly in their “right” direction… then, if I
    insist, they sometimes plant their little feet and try to look tough.
    In this case I start walking maybe 30 degrees to the side… that is
    acceptable. Kills me.)
    Thanks
    – Christina

    • Mary Hunter August 9, 2014 at 10:57 pm #

      Hi Christina,

      Thanks for leaving a comment earlier this week on my blog! Your goats sound delightful. 🙂

      I wonder if you could set up training sessions with some of the things they repeatedly alert to (such as the glass door) and practice walking confidently / calmly past these places?

      Also, do they know how to target (touch something with their nose)? With the horses I’ve worked with, I’ve found that can be a big confidence builder. It might be something fun to incorporate into your walks.

      Here are a few stories about horses learning to target / touch scary things:
      Blossom and the mailboxes: http://stalecheerios.com/blog/horse-training/blossoms-recycling-day-ride/
      Autumn and the balloon: http://stalecheerios.com/blog/horse-training/clicker-training-goblins-gam/
      cheers,

      Mary

  8. Falabella September 5, 2014 at 7:32 pm #

    Same with the word ‘unpredictable’ applied to animals. I always, always hear it used to describe a ‘predictably aggressive’ animal.

    • Mary Hunter September 5, 2014 at 9:22 pm #

      Exactly! When dogs bite, people often say there was no warning, or it came out of nowhere, but there’s almost always lots of signs and signals before the behavior happens.
      Cheers,

      Mary

      Sent from my iPad

  9. Melanie Watson May 6, 2015 at 6:57 am #

    This is perfect…thank you

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